Dear T

With regard to 'Muchimi' (ムチミ) - 'heaviness', 'rooted':

When I was younger (and less experienced in translation), I probably would have been tempted to read the Japanese (Katakana) character of 'チ' (chi) - or 'one thousand' - as being related to the Chinese ideogram of '手' (shou3) - meaning 'open hand' (and to 'clutch', etc), as they look very similar in structure. My instinct would have led me in this direction considering the martial arts usage related with the term 'Muchimi' - applying a logical 'reverse chain of events', so-to-speak (in other words - 'working backwards' using logical association). However, all the multi-language dictionaries I have access to today - strongly suggest there is no connection between these two characters.

As this possible association played on my mind (in the sense that no stone should remain unturned), I checked '手' (shou3) in these dictionaries (focusing on the 'Japanese' variants) and found that even today - the Chinese ideogram of '手' is still often used - 'unchanged' - within Japanese script, usually rendered as 'te' or 'shu', etc. When '手' is modified within Japanese script - it is presented as 'テ' (Katakana) and 'て' (Hiragana) - pronounced 'te' and 'shu' respectively. 

Therefore, although the 'チ' (Katakana) character found within 'Muchimi' (meaning 'one thousand') is 'similar' to the (Katakana) character 'テ' (te) - meaning 'open hand' - as you can see, there are slightly different upper structural differences - despite a certain lower level similarity. After further studying the history of each of these specific Japanese (Katakana) characters - the lower similarity appears to be purely coincidental rather than deliberate. The conclusion being that there is no connection between the 'チ' (Chi) - one thousand -Japanese (Katakana) character and the '手' (shou3) - meaning 'open hand' - Chinese ideogram. 

Best Wishes


Adrian

Miyagi Chojun  (1888-1953) – the founder of Goju Ryu Karate-Do - was born in Naha City on April 25th, 1888. The Miyagi family was of the ‘noble’ (ancient ‘Ryukyu’) class and was very wealthy due to supplying Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) to the Ryukyu Royal Family. This meant that the Miyagi family members were travelling continuously backwards and forwards to imperial China – and possessed continuous ‘official’ clearance from a) the Okinawan Authorities, b) the Japanese Authorities and c) the Chinese Authorities. For most ordinary people this bureaucracy was almost impossible to navigate – and even if navigated successfully – it usually applied to only a ‘single’ return journey! It was this established trade routes between the Ryukyu Island and Imperial China that Miyagi Chojun would use to facilitate his travelling to Mainland China (which might well give credence to his 1915, 1916 and 1936 visits – with ‘1916’ often being the most disputed visitation). The Miyagi family were known locally as a ‘White Silk Seal’ (素封 - Su Feng) - or very wealthy - family. This is written in the Japanese script as そほうか’ - and refers to a family with large land holdings and substantial wealth assets. Miyagi Chojun’s father was named ‘Miyagi Chosho’ (宫城長祥) - who was the third of three sons born in his generation of the Miyagi family. Unfortunately, Miyagi Chosho died early on – and when Miyagi Chojun was three years old (during 1891) he was adopted by relatives from the primary branch of the Miyagi family (which possessed no male heir). Therefore, from an early age, Miyagi Chojun became the official heir – legally designated to inherit the entire Miyagi family fortune! ​

According to biographical details supplied by Aragaki Ryuko [新垣隆功] (1875–1961) - the mother of Miyagi Chojun took him to a neighbour to begin martial arts training when he was eleven years old (during 1899). When Mr Aragaki Ryuko recalled his earliest memories of a young Mr Miyagi Chojun - he described him as an active and competitive child who often caused trouble with other children! Aragaki Ryuko, however, also recognised that Miyagi Chojun was also very talented when it came to fighting! Furthermore, although young, he exhibited a very serious attitude when training in martial arts and retained a sense of utmost discipline! Even when tired – he would never give-up and would always continue to try and move correctly and without error! Aragaki Ryuko carefully observed the behaviour of Miyagi Chojun for three-years to ensure that what he was seeing was correct. Only after this period of character-testing did Aragaki Ryuko stake his own reputation on recommending Miyagi Chojun for training with Master Higaonna Kanryo (1853-1915)! When Higaonna Kanryo accepted this youth as his ‘disciple’ - Miyagi Chojun was aged fourteen-years-old (during 1902). This means that Miyagi Chojun trained with Higaonna Kanryo between 1902-1915. This equals to thirteen-years – with two-years (1910-1912) taken-out for Miyagi Chojun’s military service in the Imperial Japanese Army (in Kyushu).  ​

Higaonna Kanryo was very strict and demanded very high levels of self-discipline and commitment from his students! He trained his students so severely that the purpose was to make those with weak characters ‘choose’ to quit training because they found it ‘too difficult’. Higaonna Kanryo would say that everything they needed was provided for their training right outside their front doors – and that they did not have to travel, seek out or attempt to communicate or negotiate! If, after all this pampering they were still unable to commit themselves to serious training – what good were they? Higaonna Kanryo would continuously advise students to go home and take-up a less demanding pastime! He wanted to see if they possessed the courage to come back the next day and face his wraith for them daring to defy his instruction! Miyagi Chojun kept returning and setting himself the daily task of using all the provided body-conditioning equipment surrounding Higaonna Kanryo’s home – whilst showing ‘respect’ NEVER giving in to the provocation to give-up! The more intense Higaonna Kanryo’s pressure became – the ‘calmer’ Miyagi Chojun’s mind would become and the ‘better’ his martial technique would manifest! This impressed Master Higaonna Kanryo – who said his teachers in China were just as hard upon him as he was upon his own students in Okinawa. As a consequence, Miyagi Chojun developed a very powerful (and ‘rooted’ to the ground) martial technique so that he was able to strike with considerable force through a ‘hardened’ and ‘toughened’ body structure that could be ‘relaxed’ inbetween bouts of required ‘tension’! Furthermore, when required, his body could absorb, deflect and redirect all incoming power from the blows of others! ​

Chinese Language Source: ​

宫城长顺先生生平介绍（转载） ​

https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv1652712/ ​

剛柔流实际的创立人是宫城长顺先生（1888-1953）。宫城长顺先生生于1888年4月25日，於那霸市出生。宫城家是以进口中国药材供应琉球王府御用的经商家族，琉球时代上等位阶士族的后裔，在那霸闻名的素封家 （そほうか，指拥有大土地，大資産的家族），宫城长顺先生的父亲是宫城家三男宫城長祥，早亡，三岁时宫城长顺先生被属于无亲子的亲戚领养并且从小被指定为宫城家业的继承人，家道富裕。  
宫城长顺先生11岁开始由母亲带他到其邻居泊手师父新垣隆功先生(1875-1961)门下习武。（新垣隆功先生便是国际冲绳刚柔流空手道连盟IOGKF范士新垣修一先生的祖父，而且新垣隆功先生是位曾经在公开比武中打赢了本部朝基的冲绳空手名人）。新垣隆功先生回顾起年幼的宫城长顺先生时，描述他是个好动并且好胜的孩子，时常与其他孩童闹事。但新垣隆功先生见宫城长顺先生天资过人，习武认真，3年后，即宫城长顺先生14岁那年推荐他到东恩纳宽量先生门下习武。在东恩纳宽量先生极度严格的训练下，宫城长顺先生的性格逐渐变得稳重谦恭。 
学生时期的宫城长顺先生每日下课后便跑步十几公里到达其师父之住处训练。并且他将沿途各种大小的石头当成举重或者击打的训练器具。据老一代的前辈描述，宫城长顺先生在学校里体育方面表现出色，特别是体操单杠运动的好手，他也曾经是学校中的柔道好手，但因为出手过重而最后校方要求他退出柔道训练。宫城长顺先生年轻时在也经常参加冲绳的摔跤赛事，但出手重并且经常使用些摔跤之外的技艺最后导致其他摔跤手不欢迎他参与赛事。因他养父临终前劝他别为了摔跤与他人结仇，宫城长顺先生放弃了摔跤。 作者：猫爷习 https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv1652712/ 出处：bilibili ​

Global Kungfu Network Editor: Yang Yanfang (林竞峰) ​

"Everyone who earns the black belt must do promotional work - which is an obligation to your art - and it doesn't matter if your financial conditions are good or not!’ ​

Lin Jingfeng, 65 (as of 2012), is the Head Coach of the China Region of the International Okinawa Goju Ryu Karate Federation. He is also the Vice President of the Zhuhai Karate Association and all year round he is travelling and teaching in Zhuhai, Guangzhou, Changsha and Hong Kong. On April 6th, 2012, he sat down with reporters at the karate Dojo situated in the Zhuhai Sports Centre.  ​

Lin Jingfeng is a native of Hong Kong – but he speaks Putonghua very well. He is of medium stature, but he is very stocky. In his conversation, he appears to be kind, humble and very modest. He started to learn karate at the age of 15, got the first black belt at the age of 19, and is now an internationally recognized 6th Dan teacher. He told us that the journey went smoothly. He was part of the first batch of (Chinese) people to learn karate in Hong Kong, and also amongst the first group to successfully pass a black belt grading. ​

When we first saw him, the scars on his arms and feet caught our attention, but his secretary told us that it was not the result of injuries, but an allergy to herbs. Lin Jingfeng said, in fact, when practicing karate it is easy to get injured, but he rarely gets hurt himself. This was done when he was practicing striking the sandbag. He was fine, but he used healing herbs on the cuts, grazes and bruises, but the allergies became what they are now. When he was teaching Goju Ryu in the Hong Kong Karate Association, many people in the class were seriously injured and they often had to call an ambulance after each session! Due to the realistic, tough and rough nature of Goju Ryu training - when the ambulance arrived and saw the wounded all over the floor – they did not know who to treat first! Part of the problem was calling an ambulance every 15 minutes due to yet another failed challenge match between a local fighter and one of our more talented Goju Ryu fighter! Things got so bad that the local hospital contacted the police – who launched an investigation – believing there was illicit or underground fighting for money going on!  ​

Later, Lin Jingfeng went to Japan, where he was taught the orthodox Goju Ryu karate by Miyagi Anichi Shifu - the brother-in-law of the former ancestral inheritor Miyagi Chojun! Lin Jingfeng told us that there are only four main styles of karate in Japan. As one of them, the Goju Ryu style of karate is mainly characterized by relatively small, circular and direct movements which are good at close-range defending and attacking. During 1980, he was instructed by his Master to travel to Fuzhu (in Fujian province) to seek-out the ancestral ‘Chinese’ martial arts styles that form the foundation of Goju Ryu Karate-Do. In other words, those Chinese martial arts styles which advocate and blend the mastery of yin and yang in their attacking and defending techniques. In other words, Lin Lingfeng was given the task of locating the fighting styles of Fuzhou that Higaonna Kanryo (1852-1915) studied, inherited and brought back to Okinawa around 1881. He was seeking out the same ‘gate’ (门 - men) of inheritance through which Higaonna Kanryo passed all those years ago! Lin Jingfeng stated that he could not find any historical, cultural or physical evidence that matched the reality of the obviously ‘Chinese’ orientated martial techniques preserved and passed on within the Goju Ryu tradition. Instead, following this failure, he decided to re-introduce the people of Mainland China to Goju Ryu Karate-Do – which is obviously a descendant of Chinese martial arts – despite being preserved within the Okinawan area of modern Japan today! Lin Jingfeng is of the opinion that Karate-Do possesses a 600 year history in China and it is about time that Chinese people understand this important exported aspect of their historical culture!  ​

Lin Jingfeng and Zhuhai ​

Lin Jingfeng has been in Zhuhai (Guangdong) for 6 years. In the past 10 years, he mainly stayed in Pan Yu (Fuzhou), while his family was in Hong Kong. Over the years, he has been traveling around and communicating with karate associations in other places. We located him by coincidence. It happened that Lin Jingfeng was teaching, and the students were very different in age. Lin Jingfeng told us that people are getting younger and younger – with many girls now taking-up the training! The youngest student today is only 7 years old! Indeed, he explained that traditional Goju Ryu is very intense – but he feels this attitude is not always good in the modern world! Very young children cannot participate in such a feudalistic atmosphere – and so he has toned-down the frequency of training intensity! This adjustment has made it suitable for men, women and children to practice. Now there are five dojos in Zhuhai, including Sun Yat-sen University Zhuhai Branch, Beijing Normal University, and Jinan University. ​

Lin Jingfeng told us a short story. One of his students worked in a government Department in Doumen (斗门). After coming here to practice with his son, in a dispute over a demolition issue, the student stepped forward to quell the incident. Lin Jingfeng said that karate is not only about learning, but more importantly, after you learn it, you have to have the courage to face emergencies and use your own abilities to solve problems. At the age of 65, he has been learning karate for 50 years. He said that the learning process of karate is not as interesting or exciting as some people think – as it involves repeated, boring and arduous exercises - which test a person's skill at patiently enduring. Regarding his persistence in karate, Lin Jingfeng was very calm in his words. When he first started learning, he felt that he was too weak, but later on, there were not too many twists and turns, and he didn't think too much. He said that no matter how old he is, he will definitely be thinking about the future. It is to live to old age and to continue to learn, whilst promoting karate has become a habit. He hopes that more people can understand and learn karate. ​

Lin Lingfeng in Profile ​

Chen Yangdi (陈阳娣), who has been with Lin Jingfeng for quite some time as the secretary of the Zhuhai Karate Association. She came to Zhuhai from Pan Yu (in Fuzhou) with Lin Jingfeng and won the runner-up in the women's group of the ‘First Guangdong-Hong Kong-Macao Karate Competition.’ According to her, the one who defeated her at that time was the Macau representative in the last Asian Games who had won a Silver Medal in the Asian Games. As a disciple of Lin Jingfeng, Chen Yangdi said that learning karate is very hard. You have to repeat the same movements every day, and the practice is very intense. Sometimes after practice, it is difficult to walk up the stairs and hold chopsticks. However, she feels that she has become more confident and happier in her karate learning, because parents often tell her that their children have changed a lot and become more sensible since taking classes here. ​

Chen Yangdi told us that Teacher Lin once gave the heroine - Chen Baozhu (陈宝珠) - a martial arts instruction in the movie ‘The Lady Killer’, and film and television stars Di Long (狄龙) and Liang Xiaolong (梁小龙) once learned karate in Teacher Lin's place... Lin Jingfeng interrupted her, ‘They are too popular now – perhaps we shouldn’t mention them.’ ​

Source: Zhuhai News Network.. ​

林竞峰：把空手道带回中国 
全球功夫网 编辑：杨艳芳  日期：2012年05月17日 
“每个进入黑带的人都必须去做推广工作，这是义务，跟你经济条件好不好没关系。”现年65岁的林竞峰是国际冲绳刚柔流空手道联盟中国区的总教练，珠海市空手道协会副会长，常年奔波在珠海、广州、长沙、香港四地。4月6日，在珠海体育中心的空手道道场内，他这样告诉记者。 
 
　　林竞峰是香港人，他的普通话讲的还算清楚，身材中等，但却很魁梧，谈吐之中显得为人和善、谦虚、低调。15岁就开始学习空手道，19岁拿到了黑带初段，现已经是国际公认六段师范的他告诉我们一路过来，都很顺利，他是香港第一批学空手道的人，也是第一批拿到黑带的人。 
　　刚见到他，他手臂、脚上的疤痕引起了我们的注意，但他的秘书告诉我们，这不是伤，是对草药过敏引发的。林竞峰说，其实练空手道很容易弄伤，但自己很少受伤，这是练沙袋的时候弄的，本来没事，上了草药，结果过敏就成了现在这样，全是疤痕。当初他在香港空手道协会教课时，班上很多人受伤，每次受伤后要叫救护车，有一次救护车上来看到满地的伤员竟然不知道要抬走哪一个，最厉害的一次是每15分钟叫一次救护车，后来医院就直接报警了，以至于警察怀疑他们在斗拳。 
 
　　后来，林竞峰去了日本，获巳故流祖宫城长顺的入室弟子宫城安一师范亲自教授正统的刚柔流空手道。林竞峰告诉我们，空手道在日本主要有4个流派，刚柔流作为其中的一支，主要特点在于动作比较小，主张并擅长近距离攻击。1980年受师傅嘱咐第一次来到福建福州市寻找刚柔流同门，但很可惜没有收获，后林竞峰就一直致力于在中国内地和香港推广刚柔流空手道。林竞峰告诉记者，空手道600年前是中国的武术，他的目标是，发扬空手道，并将它带回中国。 
 
　　林竞峰与珠海 
 
　　林竞峰来珠海已经6年了，这之前的10年，他主要待在番禺，而他的家人都在香港，这些年来，他一直奔波各地，并与其他地方的空手道协会作交流。 
我们去的很巧，刚好是林竞峰在教学，学生们年纪大小跨度非常大。林竞峰告诉我们，由于现在来学习的人年纪越来越小，有个学生只有7岁，而且女生也越来越多，为了利于空手道的推广，现在他已经将空手道练习的强度适当降低，使得男女老少都适宜练习。现在在珠海包括中山大学珠海分校以及北师大、暨大在内的道场就有5个。 
 
　　林竞峰给我们讲了个小故事，他的一个学生在斗门一政府部门工作，在和儿子来这练习之后，在一次关于拆迁问题引发的纠纷中，这个学生挺身而出平息了事故。林竞峰说，说空手道，不仅仅是学，更重要的是在学过之后你还要有勇气去面对突发事情，并利用自己的能力化解问题。 
 
　　现年65岁的他已经学了50年的空手道了，他说，空手道的学习过程并不是想有些人想象的那样很酷，更多的是重复枯燥艰苦的练习，在中也能够锻炼一个人的耐力。对于空手道的坚持，林竞峰在言语当中表现的非常平静，刚开始学时因为觉得自己太弱，但后来一路走来中间并没有太多的波折，也没有多想，他表示自己不管年纪多大，以后肯定是活到老学到老，推广空手道变成习惯，他希望有更多的人能够了解、学习空手道。 
 
　　侧面的林竞峰 
 
　　一直陪在林竞峰旁边的陈阳娣是珠海市空手道协会的秘书，她随林竞峰从番禺来到了珠海，曾获得“第一届粤港澳空手道选手权”女子组的亚军，据她介绍，当时打败她的是上一届亚运会中的澳门代表，并在亚运会中获得了银牌。作为林竞峰的弟子，陈阳娣表示，学空手道很苦，每天要重复一样的动作，练习强度也很大，有时候练完之后，走楼梯，拿筷子都很困难。不过她觉得自己在空手道中学习中变得更为自信，也很开心，因为经常有家长对她说，自从在这上课之后孩子变化很大，更为懂事。 
 
　　陈阳娣告诉我们，林老师曾经在电影《女杀手》里面给女主角陈宝珠做武术指导，影视明星狄龙、梁小龙曾经在林老师这学过空手道……林竞峰却打断了她的话，“他们现在太红了，这样说不太好。” 
  
来源：珠海新闻网 
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Translator’s Note: This Chinese language article was originally published by the Fuzhou Wushu Association in 2009 (on a Chinese language website based in Zhejiang dedicated to the history, theory and practice of Okinawan Goju Ryu). The content covers events from twenty-years earlier (c. 1989) and seeks to discover who was the Chinese Master who taught Fujian martial arts to the Okinawan traveller - Higaonna Kanryō. Researchers outside of Asia tend to approach this subject from the Anglicised rendering of a Chinese name preserved in Japan - ‘Ryu Ryu Ko’ - which often causes confusion amongst Westerners as it seems very similar to the title of the unconnected ‘Ryu Kyu’ (琉球) Islands – the name of the chain of islands Okinawa happens to be part of. Within Japan and China today, the title ‘Ryu Ryu Ko’ is shortened to ‘Ro Ro Ku’ - as it is a ‘nickname’ the phonetical expression in the English language is only approximate. A number of Chinese researchers are of the opinion that ‘Ryu Ryu Ko’ (如如哥) is a title more likely to have been used in Beijing and is unlikely to have been used in Fuzhou. What is mentioned but not elaborated upon in this article – is the historical reality that ‘Officials’ (that is those individuals who have studied for, sat and passed the Imperial Examinations) were often posted to faraway places where it was their duty to communicate in the ‘Beijing’ dialect (the language of governance throughout China regardless of local dialects).  
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An example of this involves the famous Ch’an Buddhist Master Xu Yun (1840-1959) who was born in the Quanzhou area of Fujian province. His is father was a government ‘Official’ working in Fujian province who was originally from Hunan. Despite living in Fujian province, at home Master Xu Yun’s family spoke the Hunan dialect whilst at work his father spoke the Beijing dialect. Despite being posted together with his family faraway – the connection with the ancestral land was never forgotten or given-up. Marriage partners were chosen from Hunan for Hunanese men and women born in Fujian – and when deaths occurred, the bodies were ceremoniously taken back to Hunan for burial. Therefore, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that Ru Ru Ko was from a family of ‘Officials’ that had originated in Beijing but had been posted to Fujian. This is a realistic example of how ‘Ru Ru Ko’ could have been from a cultural milieu originating in Beijing.  

As multiple languages are being used (Japanese, Chinese and English), as well as transliteration and phonetical interpretations, it is important that the logical basis of this article is clearly established. Needless to say, research in the Chinese cultural milieu is very different to research carried-out in the English language. For the Chinese language researcher, the investigation begins with the ideograms ‘如如哥’ (pronounced ‘Ru Ru Ge’). This has no obvious linguistic or cultural connection with the Fujian dialect. In Japan these three ideograms are transliterated as ‘儿 - 儿 - コ’ (Ru Ru Ko) - but ‘why’ these ideograms were chosen is something of a mystery as the ideogram ‘儿’ is a simplification of ‘兒’ (er2) which means ‘child’ or ‘son’ (which is used twice). Bear in mind that many Japanese ideograms are either direct borrowings from the Chinese language or modifications. The third ‘Japanese’ ideogram ‘コ ‘ is from the ‘Katakana’ categorisation of symbols – and again refers to a ‘child’ (as in a boy or a girl). This suggests that the Japanese term 儿 - 儿 - コ’ (Ru Ru Ko) quite literally means ‘Child (boy), Child (boy), Child (boy or girl). Therefore, the Japanese term (in Romanji) - of Ru Ru Ko contains no inherent or hidden meaning – and gives no clues as to the identity of the Chinese holder of the name. It appears to be purely phonetical in nature – as if the name were only passed-on by word of mouth and was never written down at the time of being transmitted. Indeed, Higaonna Kanryō admitted that it was difficult to linguistically communicate when he arrived in China. 

Ru Ru Ko is thought to have been born around 1820 whilst his death date is unknown. Furthermore, whoever he was - his true identity is not known. During the Battle of Okinawa (fought between April 1, 1945 – June 22, 1945) and which cost 110,000 Japanese and Okinawan causalities – as well as around 12,500 US casualties. Okinawa was totally devastated due to the ferocious nature of the fighting. This led to the near total destruction of all paper records (as libraries and private homes were totally destroyed). Many of the best and well-educated martial artists in Okinawa fought in the frontline against the invading American Forces – and were killed – whilst others later died from wounds or committed suicide. The elderly people – if not already evacuated – were killed in the vicious crossfire! It is equally true that large areas of Southern and Eastern China were also devastated during the 1930s and 1940s due to the presence of the Imperial Japanese Army, etc. This physical death and destruction eradicated a vast material and intellectual historical database and is one of the reasons why there are large gaps in details available.  

The name of the Master in question is often presented using the three Chinese language ideograms of ‘刘良兴’. This can cause further confusion as these three ideograms can be read in the Chinese language as ‘Liu Liangxing’ - giving the impression that this is a legitimate name. This is not the case as the Japanese use of these ideograms is an alternative way of expressing the far more simplistic ‘儿 - 儿 - コ’ (Ru Ru Ko). This is because ‘刘’ (Liu) can be expressed with the hiragana syllable ‘る’ (ru) and the katakana syllable of ‘ル’ (ru). The second ideogram ‘良’ (Liang) can be expressed as ろう (rō) - whilst the third ideogram ‘兴 ‘ (Xing) is represented by ‘こう’ (kō). Technically speaking, this can be read in the Japanese language as ‘Ru Ro Ko’, etc. Therefore, ‘刘良兴’ = ‘儿 - 儿 - コ’ (Ru Ru Ko) is not a specific name in and of itself. Whereas Chinese language users will read the ideograms of ‘刘良兴’ as ‘Liu Liangxing’ - Japanese language readers see only ‘Ru Ru Ko’! Another way of writing the name of this Fujian White Crane Fist Master is ‘Liu Xiangjing’ (刘祥京) - which is considered a genuine name. I cannot find any independent data about this Master on the Chinese language internet – but information possessed by the Fuzhou Wushu Association records this man as being a famous martial arts teacher in the Fuzhou area. Indeed, the entire point of this Fuzhou Wushu Association article is that although considered as a candidate – there is no reliable evidence linking ‘Liu Xiangjing’ (刘祥京) to Okinawan Goju Ryu.  

Xie Chongxiang (謝崇祥) [1852-1930) was a very famous martial artist from Changle County situated within the Fuzhou area of China. He trained under Master Pan Yu Ba (潘嶼八) who transmitted the ‘Shaolin Arahant Fist’ (少林罗汉拳 - Shao Lin Luo Han Quan) to him (some sources suggest that he also learned the ‘Southern Shaolin White Crane Fist’ [少林白鶴拳 - Shao Lin Bai He Quan] system). Xie Chongxiang was also renowned for developing the ‘Whooping Crane Fist’ (鸣鹤拳 - Ming He Quan) style. There appears to be a connection between Higaonna Kanryō and Xie Chongxiang due to the names that were used by his disciples which are very similar to those found in the Goju Ryu tradition. ACW (31.7.2022) ​

According to the historical records of Fuzhou Wushu Association: 
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A number of representatives of different Okinawan Goju Ryu karate schools (since 1983) - have visited Fuzhou at different times – all seeking historical information. It is the official policy of the Fuzhou Wushu Association to assist these enquiries and help these researchers discover reliable information about the original Chinese ancestor who taught the Okinawan martial artist named ‘Higaonna Kanryō’ [東恩納 寛量 - Dong En Na Kuan Liang] (1853–1915) who trained in China over a fourteen year-period between 1867-1881. It is believed by tradition that Higaonna Kanryō trained in Fuzhou under the Chinese Master named ‘Liu Liangxing’ (刘良兴) - although this is the Japanese transliteration. However, this Chinese Master is also known as ‘儿 - 儿 - コ’ or ‘RU-RU-KO' (Beijing interpretation). We believe that this matter is of great and special significance in the strengthening and consolidating of the traditional friendship between the two sister cities of Fuzhou and Naha - and to continue a good and friendly association between martial artists from Fuzhou and Okinawa. To this end, the Fuzhou Wushu Association takes this mission very seriously, and has actively organized investigative forces, conducted multiple enquiries and has repeatedly opened new lines of enquiry. Due to the length of time between now and the historical period concerned, this research has proven to be very difficult to ascertain and/or confirm. This research has now been ongoing for twenty-years and there is hope that major breakthroughs will eventually occur as new historical documentation becomes apparent. A similar undertaking has been pursued regarding the ‘Uechi Ryu Karate-Do' style of Okinawan martial arts – which identified the Chinese teacher known in Okinawa as ‘Zhou Zihe’ (周子和)! 
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During early March 1988, the President of the Okinawan Goju Ryu Tomarite Association - Tokashiki Yukashiki, (渡嘉敷唯贤 - Du Jia Fu Wei Xian) - acting on inaccurate information provided by the Fujian International Travel Service, believed that the Fuzhou Wushu Association had discovered and confirmed the identity of the Chinese Master who had taught Higaonna Kanryō, and made a false accusation that the Fuzhou Wushu Association was deliberately ‘withholding’ important historical information and that this data should be immediately handed over! This confusion derived from the fact that the Fuzhou Wushu Association was investigating a historical figure named ‘Liu Liangxing’ (刘良兴) - a well-known martial artist who possessed a name very similar sounding to ‘Liu Xiangjing’ (刘祥京) - but it has not been possible to prove a definite or conclusive historical connection. When this reality was explained to Tokashiki Yukashiki – he was of the opinion that we were acting unfriendly – which is untrue. The point is that there is much more investigative work still needed to be carried out. If a definite and verifiable historical connection is discovered – then the Fuzhou Wushu Association will definitely make this information public knowledge. Despite explaining this issue thoroughly, Tokashiki Yukashiki refused to listen and returned to Okinawa where he published a series of articles in the Ryukyu Times (over a ten-day period) between March 9 -18, 1988 – falsely stating that ‘Liu Xiangjing’ (刘祥京) has been identified as the historical figure ‘Liu Liangxing’ (刘良兴) and the teacher of Higaonna Kanryō - by the Fuzhou Wushu Association! At that time, this assertion caused an uproar throughout the Okinawa martial arts community, and the Fuzhou Wushu Association was contacted by a number of concerned historians and martial artists!  
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Okinawan experts agreed with the findings of the Fuzhou Wushu Association and confirmed that there is no obvious historical connection between these two figures – but that ALL avenues of investigation must be carefully pursued and considered. Following this public ridicule, Tokashiki Yukashiki attempted to explain his irresponsible actions by claiming his articles were intended as a ‘joke’! As a way of attempting to settle this matter, the Fujian International Travel Service commissioned ‘Lin Weigong’ (林伟功) - a Cadre of the Fuzhou Local Chronicles Editorial Committee – to investigate this matter whilst liaising with Tokashiki Yukashiki, so as to avoid all further misunderstanding. Lin Weigong – after considering ALL the available historical evidence – eventually produced the article entitled ‘Okinawan Goju Ryu: Examining the Biographical Details of of Higaonna Kanryō and His Chinese Teacher Ru Ru Ko!’ (日本冲绳刚柔流空手道宗师东恩纳宽量之中国师傅儿-儿-コ小考). Tokashiki Yukashiki reviewed this document and declared its content to be a ‘remarkable monument’ for Ru Ru Ko – or ‘Xie Chongxiang’ (谢崇祥) of Fuzhou! Lin Weigong’s  ‘Biographical Investigation’ made the following observations: ​

1) NAME: 
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Recorded as ‘儿 - 儿 - コ’ (Japanese) - RU-RU-KO - and correlates to ‘如如哥’ (Chinese) RU RU GE.   

His family or clan name was ‘Xie’ (哥) - his first names were ‘Chongxiang’ (崇祥).  
Indeed. if the master and disciple were of similar ages (or perhaps only one year a part in age) – they could have considered themselves to be ‘brothers’. Therefore, the designation RU RU KO – RU RU GE would be considered correct (in the Beijing dialect) – as the teacher could be a slightly older brother. 

Xie Chongxiang, however, was from Fuzhou and in the Hokkien dialect he was referred to as ‘Ru Si’ (如司) which would imply a ‘Master’ (师 - Shi). ‘Ru Si’ (如司) translates as ‘Likable Teacher’ in Hokkien. Why is this teacher’s designation recorded in the Beijing dialect – but NOT in the Fuzhou (Hokkien) dialect? Why is the Hokkien variant not known in Okinawa? Fuzhou people tend to use two ideogram descriptions pronounced by a single syllable – but never use three ideogram expressions. Whereas ‘Ru Ko’ and ‘Ru Ge’ are possible in the Hokkien dialect - ‘Ru Ru Ko’ and ‘Ru Ru Ge’ are not used. Recently, a book remembering the old martial arts Master - ‘Yu Baoyan’ (余宝炎) - was published which supports the research of Lin Weigong. This book was written by Yu Baoyan’s son – named ‘Yu Mou’ (余某) - and is entitled ‘Remembering My Father Yu Baoyan’ (忆父亲余宝炎). Within this research, the author has discovered at least five places in the historical records where Xie Chongxiang is referred to by the Hokkien designation ‘Ru Shi’ (如师)! 

The Editor-in-Chief of the book is one ‘Xie Qiquan’ (谢其铨). In the chapter entitled ‘Whooping Crane Fist of Lineage Master Xie Ru Ru’ (鸣鹤拳宗师谢如如) - Xie Qiquan quotes two lines of poetry preserved within the Fuzhou (Hokkien) dialect which reads ‘If Ru Si raises just the tip of a single arrow – then even the Immortals and the Gods cannot compete with him!’ and ‘When Ru Si gently lifts, presses and separates – the Immortals and the Gods cannot stop him!’ 

 (“ 如司单基举箭，神仙也难战”，“如司柔搅劈，神仙挡不住”。) 

It can be clearly seen from this information that Xie Chongxiang (谢崇祥) is his original name, and ‘Ru Si’ (如司) is his nickname. This is why the native people of Fuzhou refer to this individual as ‘Ru Si (Shi)’ - 如司 (师）- or ‘Likable Teacher - (Master)’! The research carried out by Lin Weigong demonstrates that the terms ‘Ru Ru Si’ (如如司) and ‘Ru Ru Ge’ (如如哥) - transliterated into the Japanese language as ‘Ru Ru Ko’ - are in fact arbitrary naming errors (怪名 - Guai Ming) probably made during the copying process from one language into another. This led to a single ideogram being mistakenly copied ‘twice’ - and this error being made into a convention (preserved during the transmission of Goju Ryu to the West). Furthermore, the ideograms ‘如如’ (Ru Ru) are also pronounced in the Beijing dialect as ‘Ru Ru’! According to the Introduction provided by the two experts Director Xie Bizhen (谢必震) and Professor Xu Gongsheng (徐恭生) of the ‘Research Office of the History of Sino-Ryukyu Relations’ - located within Fujian Normal University – it is stated that at the time most people in Fuzhou could not speak the Beijing dialect (the so-called ‘Mandarin’), and only ‘scholars’ had to learn the Beijing dialect if they wanted to take part in the Beijing imperial examinations. This implies that it is unlikely that a martial arts Master – or his disciple – would communicate to each other in Fuzhou using the Beijing dialect.  ​

2) DESCRIPTION OF BODY-TYPE: 
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The available data in Fuzhou suggests that Xie Chongxiang (谢崇祥) also known as ‘Ru Ru’ (如如) - was short (1.55 meters) and stout in stature. He was small and inconspicuous. He chose not to stand-out in a crowd. According to a number of Japanese language sources (preserved within the various Goju Ryu schools), however, ‘Liu Liangxing’ (刘良兴) is said to have been 6 foot in height (1.80 meters) and was generally considered tall and burly and to stand-out in a crowd – a physical description which is the exact opposite of that pertaining to ‘Xie Chongxiang’ (谢崇祥) - also known as ‘Ru Si’ (如司)! ​

3) OCCUPATION – PROFESSION: 
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Xie Chongxiang (谢崇祥) also known as ‘Ru Ru’ (如如) - was taught the skill of ‘Shoe-Making’ by his father at the ‘Bao Mei Zhai’ (宝美斋) Shoe Shop in Fuzhou. At the age of 31 he was considered a shoemaker in his own right, and he established a School for Shoe-Making Apprentices at a local Temple (庙 - Miao) situated on Shanghang (上杭) Street. According to the information provided by the International Okinawa Goju Ryu Karate Federation: Higaonna Kanryō recalled that Master RU-RU-KO (Liu Liangxing - 刘良兴) was originally born as a nobleman. In the second half of the 19th century, Chinese society was in turmoil, and the ‘Liu Liangxing’ (刘良兴) and his family kept their origin and status secret. Indeed, he took a job making tiles and operating a kiln. He eventually rented a two-storey house by the river in the suburbs (living by himself), making a living as a blacksmith. Lin Weigong has seen this description confirmed in a biographical text entitled ‘Ox-Head’ (牛头 - Niu Tou) - but it differs from the description found in the biographical text entitled ‘Horses-Mouth’ (马嘴 - Ma Zui). ​

4) AGE: 
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Xie Chongxiang [谢崇祥] (Ru Si - 如司) was born in 1852, while RU-RU-KO (Liu Liangxing - 刘良兴) was born in 1853. Given that Higaonna Kanryō was also born in 1853 – then the age difference between master and disciple would be either no years or only one year! This seems an unreasonable assumption as ‘Higaonna Morio’ (东恩纳盛男) - whilst passing-on details preserved by the third generation Goju Ryu Master Miyagi Anichi (宫城安一) - states that the age difference between master and disciple was at least twenty-five years! Indeed, due to the advanced years of his teacher - Higaonna Kanryō - was advised to return home.  ​

5) MARTIAL ART NAME: 

The available biographies state that the martial art in question is named ‘鸣鹤拳’ (Ming He Quan). This can be translated as: 
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a) 鸣 - (ming2) = A cry issued forth by a bird, insect or other animal. 
b) 鹤 - (he4) = Specifically a ‘White’ bird defined as a ‘Crane’.  
c) 拳 - (quan2) = A hand which is ‘closed’ - specifically a ‘clenched’ fist. ​

6) MARTIAL ART THEORY: 
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This Chinese martial arts style has the ‘Three Battles’ (三战 - San Zhan) technique as its foundational ancestor. This agrees with the records as preserved in Japan where this technique is referred to as ‘Sanchin’. In fact, within the Fuzhou area of China, the ‘Three Battles’ (三战 - San Zhan) technique is the foundation of many if not all ‘Southern Fist’ (南拳 - Nan Quan) martial styles – including ‘Dragon’ (龙 - Long), ‘Crane’ (鹤 - He), ‘Tiger’ (虎 - Hu), ‘Lion’ (狮 - Shi) ‘Arahant’ (罗汉 - Luo Han) and ‘Ground Technique’ (地术 - De Shu), etc. Therefore, the ‘Three Battles’ (三战 - San Zhan) technique is not unique to ‘Whooping Crane Fist’ (鸣鹤拳 - Ming He Quan). The available biographies record that the ‘Song of Bright Reason’ (明理歌 - Ming Li Ge) states that ‘Whooping Crane Fist’ is defined by a rapid interchange of ‘hard’ and ‘soft’ (刚柔相济 - Gang Rou Xiang Ji) martial techniques – and that this is the defining characteristic of this style. As this style spread to Okinawa whilst retaining its reliance upon rigidity and giving-way – it became known in the Japanese language as the ‘Hard-Soft’ (Goju) Karate style. Higaonna Morio states that Miyagi Chojun (宫城长顺) - who was a disciple of Higaonna Kanryō - remembered that his teacher (Higaonna Kanryō) brought a martial manual back from China entitled the ‘Martial Preparation Record’ (武备志 - Wu Bei Zhi). One line reads ‘法刚柔吞吐’ (Fa Gang Rou Tun Tu)’ which translates as the ‘law of hard and soft operates throughout’. This was taken to mean that the main martial principle in operation is that of the continuous interchange of ‘hard-soft’ (刚柔 - Gang Rou). This is exactly how the style of Goju Ryu Karate-Do was named by Miyagi Chojun – after he read the specific line mentioned above as contained in the martial manual brought back from China by his teacher - Higaonna Kanryō! This is why the Goju Ryu style of Karate emphasises the rapid interchange of hard and soft martial techniques. Points that need clarifying. Combining rigidity with softness is the general rule for ALL styles of ‘Southern Fist’ (南拳 - Nan Quan) originating within the Fuzhou area. This is not a martial principle unique to ‘Whooping Crane Fist’ (鸣鹤拳 - Ming He Quan). Therefore, naming this style after this principle is far too general and conveys nothing of the original style when considering how many styles that have been developed throughout the Fuzhou area. Knowing the guiding (and underlying) operating principle tells historians nothing about the name (or origin) of the martial art style concerned. In theory it could be related to any of the Fuzhou martial arts styles listed above. This suggests that the compiler of the traditional biographies surrounding the history of the transmission of Goju Ryu from Fuzhou to Okinawa did not possess a good or sound general knowledge of the martial art styles operating in and around the Fuzhou area – and this is something of a mystery. This suggests that a crucial element of historical (cultural) data is missing from the biographies surrounding the transmission of a Chinese style of Fujian martial arts to Okinawa! ​

7) DISCIPLES: 

The biographies state that students of this martial arts style must show a good and virtuous character whilst also achieving an advanced martial ability! The student is tested both morally and physically when entering this martial arts style! Both mind and body are developed equally! If the biography of Higaonna Kanryō is correct - then his Master was named ‘Xie Chongxiang’ (谢崇祥) and he was called ‘Ru Ru Ko’ - or ‘Ru Ru’ (如如)! It must also be acknowledged that training in this way and following these martial principles are commonplace within the Fuzhou area. Therefore, Higaonna Kanryō could have trained with any number of teachers all behaving very similarly and demanding equally high standards of commitment and endeavour! Fuzhou has very high martial standards and what Higaonna Kanryō describes could relate to any number of martial arts masters living in the area. The area is renowned for its severe and highly demanding martial arts standards! Due to the missing historical and cultural data it is correct to say that the available biographies regarding the experiences of Higaonna Kanryō in China are incomplete. Why is this? Has data been taken out? Has data gone missing? Did the compilers lack a basic cultural understanding of the martial culture operating in and around Fuzhou? With this kind of crucial data missing, it is very difficult to get to the root of the matter.   
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On April 20, 1989, the above research by Lin Weigong was made public in the ‘Fuzhou Evening News’. Some months later, on October 19th and November 1st, 2022, two readers separately raised the questions ‘Who was the Chinese Master of the Japanese Higaonna Kanryō?’ and ‘Is Japan’s Goju Ryu Karate and China’s Whooping Crane Fist Directly Related?’ This is because Lin Weigong’s article caused so many doubts (and triggered in-depth debate) that it was printed twice six months apart! This piece was entitled ‘Discussion with Comrade Lin Weigong’ (与林伟功同志商榷) - and because of all the doubts and missing historical and cultural detail it was decided that it is too early to build a monument to ‘Xie Chongxiang’ (谢崇祥) in Fuzhou. More evidence needs to be ascertained before such an undertaking can be formally considered. During August 1989, when Xu Cai (徐才) - the Chairman of the Chinese Wushu Association was informed about this matter – he stated that in accordance with the spirit of seeking truth from facts, a scientific attitude should be adopted, and this issue should not be forced. On the basis of sound historical research and expert appraisal, a scientific basis must be established. Either there is a ‘fact’ or there is ‘no fact’ - there cannot be any grey areas! For this reason, we believe that textual research on historical figures should be treated with a serious and exact attitude so that truth can be extracted from facts. The establishment of historical fact cannot be arbitrarily shaped. If it is correct that Higaonna Kanryō was taught by a Chinese Master named ‘Xie Chongxiang’ (谢崇祥) - who was called ‘Ru Ru Ko’ - then this must be proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Doubt must be removed through good quality research and the establishment of historical fact. In China we possess a responsibility to our own martial history in Fuzhou – and we also possess a responsibility for all the Karate-styles in Okinawa (and Japan) whose practitioners believe their martial systems originate in China! Remember, many Okinawan and Japanese martial styles have spread worldwide – as have many Chinese martial systems! Establishing a correct history is not a laughing matter and is a very serious affair. If false claims are made, then this issue becomes a laughing matter not only in Fuzhou – but also throughout the martial arts schools of Okinawa!  
December 23, 2009 ​

Chinese Language Article: 

https://web-archive-org.translate.goog/web/20131009224220/http://gojuryukarate.cn/showart.asp?art_id=33&_x_tr_sl=zh-TW&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc 

福州武术协会寻查RU-RU-KO过程与看法  

据福州武协历史资料记载：冲绳刚柔流空手道各派，自1983年开始，直到现在都先后陆续来到福州，希望福州武协能够协助他们寻查其原祖东恩纳宽量在1867年—1881年间，在福州学武时的师傅刘良兴（日语译音），冲绳武术界称他为“ 儿 - 儿 - コ（日文） RU-RU-KO （北京音）”。我们认为，此事对加强与巩固福州、那霸两个友好城市的传统友谊、对福州武术也有着重大而特殊的意义。为此，福州武协十分认真，并积极地组织力量，多方调查，反复论证。由于时间太久，缺乏历史资料，虽查有数人，均似是而非，难予最后确认。20多年来，不间断地在继续调查中。冲绳上地流空手道也有类似之事，对周子和的寻查圆满成功。   

1988年3月初，冲绳刚柔流泊手会会长渡嘉敷唯贤，根据福建省国际旅行社提供的不准确的信息，认为福州武协已找到冲绳刚柔流的师祖，要求我们把调查材料交给他们，当时我们虽然正在调查一个姓名、住处与“刘良兴”近似的已故老拳师“刘祥京”。但缺乏更多的事实可作论证。当我们把调查过程告诉渡嘉敷唯贤，并一再说明，这尚无有力、确凿的证据，还要做大量的考证工作。但他却认为我们对他不友好，不给他们真实材料。虽经我们再三说明、解析，而他回冲绳后，即于1988年3月9日—18日在《琉球时报》连载10天，说东恩纳宽量在福州的师父即“刘祥京”已调查证实。当时给冲绳武术界引起了轩然大波，纷纷向福州武协提出质疑。他们从多方面证明，均认为《琉球时报》报导不实。随后，渡嘉敷唯贤在冲绳也否认了他的报导事实，闹了一场笑话。接着渡嘉敷唯贤又经国际旅行社介绍，委托福州市地方志编委会的干部林伟功调查。随后林伟功写了一篇《日本冲绳刚柔流空手道宗师东恩纳宽量之中国师傅儿-儿-コ小考》一文，交给渡嘉敷唯贤，渡嘉敷唯贤据此为儿-儿-コ(谢崇祥)在福州立了“显彰碑”。 

林伟功所谓的《小考》，其论据如下： 

一、 姓名：《小考》说， 儿 - 儿 - コ（日文） RU-RU-KO （北京音）的真名应是 “ 如如 ” （北京音），他姓谢，族字崇祥，北京音 “RU-RU-KO 即如如哥 ” 。因师徒只相差一岁，所以用兄弟相称，叫 “RU-RU-KO 如如哥 ” 。从名字上 “ 考证 ” ， RU-RU-KO 即 “ 如如哥 ” 无误。 

可是谢崇祥，福州社会上普遍是福州话叫“如司（师）”，在福州武术界无人不知的事实，但却没有人知道有福州话的“如如司”者。而福州人的习惯，凡双字同音者只称单字，如：“如哥”、“如司”等，从没人称“如如哥”、“如如司”。最近老拳师《余宝炎》一书出版。该书是宣扬林伟功观点的。余宝炎儿子余某，在书中写一篇《忆父亲余宝炎》一文中，却有五处称谢崇祥为 “ 如师 ”。该书主编谢其铨在《鸣鹤拳宗师谢如如》一文中，引用了福州话顺口溜“ 如司单基举箭，神仙也难战”，“如司柔搅劈，神仙挡不住”。由此可见，谢崇祥是他的原名，“如司”是他的别称。所以福州人都称他为“ 如司（师）”，而“如如司”或“如如哥”只是林伟功偷梁换柱，任意塑造的“怪名”。况且“ 如如”二字是以 北京音才能与 RU-RU相近。据福建师范大学“中琉关系史研究室”谢必震主任和徐恭生教授介绍，二位专家说，当时福州一般人都不会说北京话（即所谓“官话”），只有“秀才”，要上京考试要学北京话。所以，学武的师徒之间，更不可能用北京话相称。 

二、 体型：《小考》说， 谢崇祥（如如）身材矮小（ 1.55 米左右）粗壮，外表看个小很不起眼。据日本各派提供资料：RU-RU-KO（刘良兴）身高6尺（1.80米左右），身材高大魁梧，这与谢崇祥（如司）的体型完全相反。 

三、 职业：《小考》说， 谢崇祥（如如）其父让他在宝美斋鞋铺学做鞋艺， 31 岁时在福州上杭街直冲庙设馆授徒。据国际冲绳刚柔流空手道连盟提供的资料：东恩纳宽量回忆师父RU-RU-KO（刘良兴），原是出生于贵族。19世纪后半叶，中国社会动荡不安，“刘良兴”一家都隐姓潜伏，蓄发藏身于瓦窑，为普通瓦工，平时烧瓦、叠瓦。后辞去瓦窑工作，独自租住郊外河边的两层高的房子，以篾匠维持生计。这与《小考》所提的职业，“牛头”对不了“马嘴”。 

四、 年龄：谢崇祥（如司）出生于 1852 年，而 RU-RU-KO （刘良兴）出生于 1853 年，师徒仅相差一岁。这与一般情理不合。据东恩纳盛男提供资料，其第三代传人，宫城安一说，师徒间大约相差25岁左右。因师父年老，所以令东恩纳宽量回琉球。 

五、拳论、拳名：《小考》说： 根据 “ 拳论 ” （鸣鹤拳）： “ 本法以三战为祖 ” ，这与日方视以 “ 三战 ” 为根本是相通的。实际上福州传统南拳，如：龙、鹤、虎、狮、罗汉、地术等拳术都是以“三战”为基础，不是鸣鹤拳独有的。《小考》又说： 《明理歌》鸣鹤拳中就有 “ 刚柔相济 ” 的提法，而此拳就是以刚柔为根本的，故拳名为 “ 刚柔流空手道 ” 。 
在东恩纳盛男提供的资料中说：刚柔流空手道是东恩纳宽量的学生宫城长顺，从福州带回的中国武术书刊《武备志》中所提的“法刚柔吞吐”一语中，取“刚柔”二字，作为该流派的名称，故名“刚柔流”空手道。“刚柔相济”是福州一般南拳拳术的普遍风格，也更不是鸣鹤拳所专有。所谓的“刚柔相济”与刚柔流拳名，毫不相干，风马牛不相及，由这二点所谓的《小考》，可知 《小考》笔者毫无福州传统南拳的一般常识， 任意推测、 “ 考证 ”，太过无知可笑。 

七、 授徒：《小考》说： 双方授课时，对徒弟要求极严，品德要求高，极重武德。这些双方都不谋而合，这与源流有关，如如均是这样要求，考验徒弟的。 

《小考》以此证明RU-RU-KO就是谢崇祥（如如）。那么，福州市的绝大部份的老拳师对学徒都极严格，极重武德，也就都可称为RU-RU-KO，岂不是也都可成为东恩纳宽量的师父了吗？综上所述，所谓的《小考》，并无一点可以站得住脚， 毫无 “ 考证 ” 价值，对历史人物的考证，不严肃认真、任意推测塑造，草率行事。 

当1989年4月20日，上述《小考》的内容在《福州晚报》公开宣扬后，10月19日与11月1日即有二名读者分别以《日本东恩纳宽量的师父到底是谁？》及《日本刚柔流空手道与福州鸣鹤拳同宗吗？》，两次出现《与林伟功同志商榷》的文章，认为疑点太多，太过草率，影响不好，反对在福州市为谢崇祥立“显彰碑”。 

1989年8月中国武协主席徐才知道后，认为按照实事求是的精神，理应采取科学的态度，不可迁强附会。在历史考证、专家鉴定基础上，提出科学的依据。有或无、是或非，有则有之，无则无之， 千万不要似是而非。为此，我们认为考证历史人物要以实事求是的精神，认真、严肃的态度对待。不能草率、任意塑造。所谓“谢崇祥就是RU-RU-KO，也就是东恩纳宽量在福州学武时的师父，就是刚柔流空手道的始祖”，并为他树立了所谓的“显彰碑”，这不仅在福州市武术界中，而且在冲绳各派空手道中，都成了天大的笑话。 
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2009年12月23日 ​

Regardless of gender, age or ability, everyone who enters our Training Hall is given an ‘equal’ chance to prove themselves in the tough atmosphere of a military-style discipline which is common within proper Training Halls in China today. This is the traditional approach of ‘testing’ a student’s resolves to ascertain whether it is worth the bother of the instructor to invest time in a student’s psychological and physical development. The onus is to allow the student ‘quit’ in the quickest and easiest manner possible and go elsewhere for training. This removes them as a problem from our Training Hall – and confirms that they are noy suitable. This is the process of what I call ‘self-selection’. A student can continue to stay and train or remove themselves in defeat – the choice is only ever theirs. If a student survives the furnace of the initial ‘firing’ process, then they fall into line (literally) and become part of the school. This is where the training of the ‘mind’ begins – a process which continues as an under-current of continuous influences even outside of the Training Hall – and when the teacher and the student are no longer physically in close proximity. ​

This means that a ‘Disciple’ within the Ch’an Dao School is someone who has trained for years and passed many and varied tests – some obvious – others not so obvious. Yes – this approach does stem from a Confucian attitude of ‘respect’ and ‘social order’ premised upon the use of ‘wisdom’ and ‘compassion’ - and that is exactly the ideology within which ALL Chinese martial arts styles have developed. As a consequence, as we spar with no padding, and given that under the Law of China – if someone ‘dies’ in a sparring match they have consented to – then it is their own fault and no crime has been committed. When we are visiting China – this is the type of fighting we always participate in – and prevail through. We have never lost a bout yet. In the West, we make our sparring and training as authentic as possible whilst keeping within the boundaries of UK. The Law exists to protect us all and the Law must be respected for it to be effective. As a consequence, we do not participate in ‘sport’ or ‘pretend’ fighting of any kind. Neither do we participate in the boosting of the ego through pointless verbal abuse and physical violence. We remain quiet, peaceful and disciplined until it is time to move – then we move with the speed of lightning and the weight of a mountain! ​

Teaching at a distance, for me at least, evolves from teaching ‘face-to-face'. One facet of interaction supports the other facet and all is well. I have never participated in teaching only ‘at a distance’ (through video-link) as it seems to me to be a product egoism and superficiality. Of course, I might be wrong, but I think that I am correct within the context of our Hakka Chinese martial arts style. How are we to assess the quality of the character of each student? How do we know if the student in question possesses the integrity to benefit from the teaching and to benefit the style? As I do not teach for monetary profit, ‘gain’ is no motivator for me. A student can say anything ‘at a distance’ just to access the style whilst making no effort or sacrifice on their part. For this type of student – this entire process is an out-dated game which they play to pass the time. And yet this type of ‘untested’ person does not even know what a ‘squat-kick’ is, and probably could not do ‘ten’ let alone the ‘fifty’ required by every beginner! If you want to learn superficial movement without making any sacrifices – then pick-up a book and copy the pictures. This is all that is happening with martial arts conveyed via the internet as a means to generate an income – if there is no meaningful face-to-face' contact.  ​